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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:35 am Post subject: Ketamine’s incredible depression cure |
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Ketamine’s incredible depression cure
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US scientists announced this week that ketamine appears to be phenomenally successful at treating depression and is able to ‘dissolve serious feelings of despair’ (New York Times).
“To my knowledge, this is the first report of any medication or other treatment that results in such a pronounced, rapid, prolonged response with a single dose,” Dr Thomas Insel, director of the National Institute of Mental Health, told the BBC, “These were very treatment-resistant patients.”
17 severely depressed people were given the notoriously hardcore party drug or placebos and within hours, 71% of the K users felt better, with 29% entirely symptom free. One third of the patients also felt less depressed a week later, the BBC reported, representing an unprecedented level of success compared to all other anti-depressants.
“What the study tells us is that we can break this sound barrier, in effect, and get an almost immediate response that we cannot get with other drugs,” study chief Doctor Zarate told the New York Times, “This drug should be seen as a tool for understanding what mechanisms might be involved in rapid relief.”
Ironically, ketamine was criminalised in the UK at the beginning of this year after British authorities decided it had become a ‘mainstream party drug’. The drug is well known for causing out of body experiences known as ‘K holes’, which the Journal of Psychoactive Drugs described in 2000 as often resembling a state of ‘catatonic schizophrenia’.
“People will suddenly sit up, speak a phrase, and lie down again. Ketamine users often insist that events ‘really happened’ and that the drug is merely a key for doors to ‘other realms’,” the Journal reported, “Most of these people are not insane.”
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine_faq.shtml (Ketamine FAQ: ‘Unpracticed trippers may be overpowered by the awesome revelations of Ketamine and may be somewhat overwhelmed, A peculiar sort of loneliness can occur over the line, so it is a good idea to stay in close quarters with people you are close with . . .’) _________________ "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as Gods. Cats have never forgotten this." Anonymous. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:36 am Post subject: |
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oh i read about this
made me laugh
so not gonna take K to cure my depression _________________ back in my days car parks were 4 parking cars n a passout was when u drank 2 much
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:42 am Post subject: |
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meh i would have assumed that its the opposite LOL _________________ "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as Gods. Cats have never forgotten this." Anonymous. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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“People will suddenly sit up, speak a phrase, and lie down again...."
So funny when someone does that.... _________________ sAve the wOrld - kiLL yOurselF |
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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thats bullshit,
it may give them temp relief until the drug wears off.
How about the side effects, like the fact it eats holes in ur brain and fucks up ur memory.
I remember I stopped using K the day teacher told me about all the ppl who end up in mental homes from prelonged use. _________________
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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LOL see I used to get depressed afta having it like when it wears off and even the next day _________________ "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as Gods. Cats have never forgotten this." Anonymous. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Deal with your problems, drugs only cause more. _________________
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:20 am Post subject: Re: Ketamine’s incredible depression cure |
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dudette wrote: |
US scientists announced this week that ketamine appears to be phenomenally successful at treating depression and is able to ‘dissolve serious feelings of despair’ (New York Times). |
Or just feelings in general i thought... _________________
Open your eyes, open your minds...
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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I dont think they'd thought this one through very far.
SIF ketamine is the gods given cure to depression. Biggest bullshit ive ever read. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:58 am Post subject: |
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yeah ive never had worse come downs than off k. _________________
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Its not even a come down perse. Its like a "I AM FUCKING BRAIN DEAD! I CANT EVEN THINK, AND FORGOT WHICH LETTER COMES AFTER A" kinda shit.
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Low doses can fix it for a while.. just like psilocybin or low does of lsd.. mescaline also, But you still have to deal with your problems later on. Its all only a temporary fix. Altho it has been noted that some drugs can cure forms of depression & other problems in a persons life, thats up to the person & their state of mind, psyche & how they react to what ever they have taken, Not everyones the same.. what works for someone else might not work for the next person..
I've self noted things come back cluttered, jumbled, rearranged, deeper & darker. Only towards the end of a massive downfall are you able to reach a perfect conclusion about yourself & your problems. A good understanding of yourself does wonders... a mistake many people make.. claiming to know why they do & who they are.
The problem is where the depression/problem started.. life changing experience? death of a family member?? losing a partner, endured hardships, Fragmented growing up etc etc.. Understanding your problem is the best method of curing a problem.
Understanding leads to realization. _________________
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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The Great Deceiver wrote: | Low doses can fix it for a while.. just like psilocybin or low does of lased.. mescaline also, But you still have to deal with your problems later on. Its all only a temporary fix. Altho it has been noted that some drugs can cure forms of depression & other problems in a persons life, thats up to the person & their state of mind, psyche & how they react to what ever they have taken, Not everyones the same.. what works for someone else might not work for the next person..
I've self noted things come back cluttered, jumbled, rearranged, deeper & darker. Only towards the end of a massive downfall are you able to reach a perfect conclusion about yourself & your problems. A good understanding of yourself does wonders... a mistake many people make.. claiming to know why they do & who they are.
The problem is where the depression/problem started.. life changing experience? death of a family member?? losing a partner, endured hardships, Fragmented growing up etc etc.. Understanding your problem is the best method of curing a problem.
Understanding leads to realization. |
thats some good advice mate! _________________
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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The Great Deceiver wrote: |
The problem is where the depression/problem started.. life changing experience? death of a family member?? losing a partner, endured hardships, Fragmented growing up etc etc.. Understanding your problem is the best method of curing a problem.
Understanding leads to realization. |
exactly ... took me 6 yrs to figure it out but hey i did it, perscription and shrink free
i may now be a sarcastic bitch .... but you cant win em all _________________ back in my days car parks were 4 parking cars n a passout was when u drank 2 much
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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lol @ ellen you sarcastic bitch! _________________
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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dont make me slap u mikka
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were you being serious? or were you being sarcastic? _________________
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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lol Daniel did u get that speel from somewhere or have u had some of the good stuff now LOL _________________ "Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as Gods. Cats have never forgotten this." Anonymous. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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tekgal wrote: | thats bullshit,
it may give them temp relief until the drug wears off.
How about the side effects, like the fact it eats holes in ur brain and fucks up ur memory.
I remember I stopped using K the day teacher told me about all the ppl who end up in mental homes from prelonged use. |
LOL.. are you realising the shit you're talking??
Yes, it eats holes in your brain... no fucking drug does that.
LOL if holes were to appear in your brain, you'd be fucking dead - got to love the scare shit people believe.
I highly doubt the dosages of the drug being used for depression are anything near a recreational dose - perhaps you should take that into account?
They'd be threshold at best - theres still possibility for abuse, but oral doses of Ketamine are terrible at best, even in a low recreational dose - no one who tried it would do it again? Ever had a shitty K bomb pill and think you're going to die? whilst not actually feeling all that K'd out? then wondering what the fuck was in that pill until you test it?
Uneducated idiots should keep their stupid ideas, or shit they read in magazines to themselves, makes me sick to read some of the crap people believe without even doing any hard research... Did any of you even stop and think a minute as to what the dose would be? it's prolly something stupid like 5-10mg.. wouldnt have any outward effect at all. Think about oral doses of aphetamines? 5-10mg tops - the only difference is Amphetamine is actually enjoyable orally.
Jesus, some people need a fuckn reality check, the other Daniel is the only other person with any common sense. _________________
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:58 am Post subject: |
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^^^ Fuck Daniel u have such a way with words, your really able to get your point across and are able to get most of us to your thinking with your posts - such tact !!!!
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